Firebug Working Group April 30, 2009title>  <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"/> <meta name="generator" content="S5" /> <meta name="version" content="S5 1.1" /> <meta name="presdate" content="20060209" /> <meta name="author" content="John J. 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</br> injection code horrible</dd> <dt> bugs:</dt> <dd> almost all out of date (eg "console not found").</dd> <dt>key enhancements</dt> <dd> command line across all panels (<a href="http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=768">768</a>);<br> history in large command line (<a href="http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=1390">1390, 1415, 1590, 1669, 161</a>);<br> hierarchical profiler output (<a href="http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=322">322</a>)</dd> <dt>1.6</dt> <dd> complete re-write with ChromeObjectWrapper.</dd> </dl> </div> <div class="slide getfirebug"><h1>HTML Panel</h1> <dl> <dt> status</dt><dd> Joe Hewitt's jewel.</dd> <dt> bugs</dt><dd> outline out of line (Radcliffe to the rescue?)</dd> <dt> key enhancements</dt><dd> Computed Style Side panel<a href="http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=63">63</a>);<br> SVG support (666, 1103, 1342);<br> save rendered markup (<a href="http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=9">9</a>)</dd> <dt> 1.5-1.6</dt> <dd> no plans</dd> </dl> </div> <div class="slide getfirebug"><h1>CSS Panel</h1> <dl> <dt>status</dt><dd> under appreciated orphan</dd> <dt>bugs</dt><dd> no biggy</dd> <dt>key enhancements</dt><dd> diff support(<a href="http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=179">179</a>);<br> save as(<a href="http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=9">9</a>);<br> support for after, before, hover, popups (1012, 551)</dd> <dt>1.5</dt><dd> diff via extension (kpdecker)</dd> </dl> </div> <div class="slide getfirebug"> <h1>Script Panel</h1> <dl> <dt>status</dt> <dd> bravely rowing against the tide</dd> <dt>bugs</dt><dd> whack a mole</dd> <dt>enhancement</dt><dd> start over.</dd> <dt>1.5</dt><dd> none: all prep for 1.6</dd> <dt>1.6</dt><dd> re-write <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=449452">jsd</a>; replace fbs </dd> </dl> </div> <div class="slide getfirebug"><h1>DOM Panel</h1> <dl> <dt>status</dt><dd> decent, but slow and feature rot</dd> <dt>bugs</dt><dd> features gone missing</dd> <dt>enhancement</dt><dd> customizable selections and views.</dd> <dt>1.5-1.6</dt><dd> no plan</dd> </dl> </div> <div class="slide getfirebug"><h1>Net Panel</h1> <dl> <dt>status</dt><dd> Jan 'Honza' Odvarko jewel</dd> <dt>bugs</dt><dd> mostly cache related.</dd> <dt>enhancements</dt><dd> integrated js events/timing; <br> multi-page traffic analysis (<a href="http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=1209">1209, 1681, 131</a>);<br> cache reads (<a href=http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=1208">1208</a>)</dd> <dt>1.5/1.6</dt><dd> ?</dd> </dl> </div> <div class="slide getfirebug"><h1>Overall UI</h1> <dl> <dt>status</dt><dd>Function great, graphics lagging</dd> <dt>bugs</dt><dd>Good but long tail</dd> <dt>enhancements</dt><dd>minimize to bar (<a href="http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=1678">1678</a>);<br> options icons always visible;<br> different locale from Firefox</dd> <dt>1.5/1.6</dt><dd>none</dd> </dl> </div> <div class="slide getfirebug"> <h1>Extensions</h1> <h2>Key features for 1.5</h2> <ul> <li>Several successes without trying.</li> <ul><li> YSlow, FirePHP, FireCookie</li></ul> <li>NextGen, new for 1.5: </li> <ul><li>Event (<a href="http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=1240">1240</a>), Traces, Diff (<a href="http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=1241">1241</a>), </li></ul> <li>New Ideas in Extensions</li> <ul> <li>New extension manager(?)</li> <li>Co-tested. "Certified Firebug Extension"?</li> <li>Branded bundles? Eg "Souders Performance Pack for Firebug"</li> </ul> </ul> </div> <div class="slide getfirebug"> <h1>getfirebug.com</h1> <ul> <li>Documentation</li> <ul><li>Needs work, out of date, incomplete</li><li>Blog seems to help some</li></ul> <li>Releases</li> <ul> <li>Need docs for tracing version</li> <li>Extension swarms</li> </ul> </div> <div class="slide getfirebug"> <h1>Relation to Firefox</h1> <ul> <li>Project Connectivity</li> <ul><li>Good and steadily improving.</li></ul> <li>Problem Areas</li> <ul> <li>No JSD support</li> <li>Error processing architecture</li> <li>Cache/Event API incomplete and mysterious</li> <li>"We are the last to know"</li> </ul> </div> <div class="slide getfirebug"> <h1>Firebug Lite</h1> <ul> <li>Recent improvements</li> <li>Status update from Mike Radcliffe</li> </ul> </div> <div class="slide getfirebug"> <h1>Long range issues</h1> <h2><it>Must get priority</it></h2> <ul> <li>Growth in web-app complexity</li> <ul> <li>Large/long-lived apps (<a href="http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=1187">1187</a>) Multiparty apps, js lib consolidation, 3D, interactive video, ... </li> </ul> <li>Project Sustainability</li> <ul><li>Too much core code for 2 developers</li></ul> <li>Competition</li> <ul><li>IE8, WebKit+V8, Dragonfly, </li></ul> <li>New directions</li> <ul><li>Bespin, multi-process, other browsers.</li></ul> </ul> </div> <div class="slide getfirebug"><h1>Consequences</h1> <h2>Something has to change</h2> <ul> <li>Scale up by extension,</li> <li> Resist adding core code,</li> <li>FF compatibility lower priority</li> <li>Lobby for another core developer,</li> <li>Focus on 1.5 on FF 3.0 and 1.6 on FF 3.6 (jjb)</li> <li>1.4/1.5 on FF 3.5 will fall to others.</li> </div> </body> </html>